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livtocruz 08-26-2009 12:45 PM

Bond Arms Snake Slayer
 
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Has anyone had any experience with one of these? Looks to be the perfect close quarters defense weapon. It also has interchangeable (sold separately) barrels allowing a multitude of various size cartridges.

Thanks,

The Bond Arms Snake Slayer is the ultimate concealable .410 shotshell/.45 Long Colt double barrel pistol that has the extended grip that gives better control. This Gander Exclusive comes with the premium custom leather BMT holster with the Gander logo on
3.5 inch barrel
22 ounces
Shoots the 2.5 inch to 3 inch .410 or 45 LC
Includes custom leather holster

Absintheur 08-26-2009 12:59 PM

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Well...a hard to use, slow to reload 2 shot pistol for $450.00, weight 22oz, length 5.5 inches, height about 4 inches...

Or a S&W 442, uses standard speedloaders, 5 shots, easy DA action, weight 15 ounces, length 6 5/16th for $400.00.

I think I would much rather have the S&W in my pocket, have a very easy to use handgun that is easy to reload and have 3 more shots.

livtocruz 08-26-2009 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Absintheur (Post 1887511)
Well...a hard to use, slow to reload 2 shot pistol for $450.00, weight 22oz, length 5.5 inches, height about 4 inches...

Or a S&W 442, uses standard speedloaders, 5 shots, easy DA action, weight 15 ounces, length 6 5/16th for $400.00.

I think I would much rather have the S&W in my pocket, have a very easy to use handgun that is easy to reload and have 3 more shots.

Thanks, will take a look at the 442. Looking for a backup, easy conceal, to my semi-auto pistol.

mightymanx 08-26-2009 01:27 PM

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How tough is your hand??

Big caliber Derringers are about as fun to shoot as letting your buddy whack your palm as hard as he can with a hammer.

FreeMyLand 08-26-2009 05:35 PM

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When reading reviews on the Taurus Judge, I have seen a lot of comments about how ineffective .410 shot shells can be in defensive situations. There is not a lot of penetration.

So I wouldn't buy one solely because of its ability to shoot .410.

I like derringers, and like the ease of concealment. The real negative, in my opinion, is that a lot of times the grips are very hard to hold securely when shooting big bore (like 45 LC or 44 Special). It really is a belly gun and not much more...

Twisted Avatar 08-26-2009 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mightymanx (Post 1887555)
How tough is your hand??

Big caliber Derringers are about as fun to shoot as letting your buddy whack your palm as hard as he can with a hammer.


That is what I was thinking.

Soon as I saw the handle I said dam that is gonna hurt really bad.


T

Absintheur 08-26-2009 10:19 PM

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I actually shot one of the 45/70 derringers...once...my hand wasn't normally for a week. One that I did actually like was the American Derringer chambered in .223. Again a belly gun, keyholed every shot, very loud...but, because of the light projectile there was very little recoil and if you were within 10 feet and the bullet missed you would at least set the BG on fire! This thing was a flamethrower....lol. We shot it as night and the muzzle flash was blinding.

I just think for a BUG a small revolver or auto like the Kel-Tec PF-9 is a much better option.

jingles 08-30-2009 08:04 PM

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I have one of these with 3 different barrels. This is very heavy and not comfortable to carry, if you come into my house unannounced though, be prepared for some triple 0 buck. Watch out for the 45 back up also. This gun is very well made and durable, if you’ve got the extra money don’t be afraid to pick one up. I love mine. The company is very good to deal with also.

electric-amish 08-30-2009 08:43 PM

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weight seems a hinderance to me. Its heavy enough to eat some recoil but that also cuts down carry comfort. The 2 shot derringer may have a place but for me it would be small caliber light weight--maybe 38 or even 22.

They have a distinct disadvantage in capacity.

If you can carry it OK then its good. They are a simple and well made mechanically . I have never heard of a derringer failing.

Tossssss upppppp

MY pocket has a 442 5 shot wheel gun. Not the thinest or the highest capacity but, its like a fork, every time it works.

E-A

farscott 08-31-2009 06:54 AM

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I have a Snake Slayer IV and extra barrels in .38 Special/.357 Magnum and .22 LR. A couple of misconceptions are posted by people who obviously have not tried one of these.

1) The recoil is not bad with .410 shot shells. Recoil with the supplied grips is more a nudge than a sharp impulse. My teenage daughter has no recoil problems with 3" 000 buck loads in the Bond. She loves to shoot the Shoot-N-C targets with it. The biggest problem is she loves to shoot whole boxes of ammo in a range session.

2) When new, the trigger is bad. I thought mine was not going to fire when I first tried it. The pull is as much down as it is back, and it takes some practice to get proficient. It gets better with use. Lots better. It will never rival a 1911 trigger, but it becomes usable.

3) I carry mine on my belt in the driving holster when I am not carrying my usual property gun, a fixed-sight FA 1997 in .357 Magnum loaded with 158-grain SWC at 1100 fps. The Bond has been used on more than one problem snake, mostly cottonmouths. .410 shot shells loaded with #7 shot are less expensive to load than .38/.45 shot shells are to buy. For defense against two-legged animals, a S&W Centennial with traditional ammo is a better choice. I am still learning how to load my own .357 shot shells.

4) It weighs less than a two-inch S&W M640 or a two-inch Ruger SP-101. It is decent for pocket carry, but the draw can be tricky.

5) The barrel swaps are fast and easy. The Bond is well built.

jingles 08-31-2009 08:03 AM

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I agree with farscott, the 410 3" is not hard to handle in this gun. I don't carry mine, I have it for home use and for fun.

Here's a guy skeet shooting with one!

livtocruz 08-31-2009 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by farscott (Post 1895530)
I have a Snake Slayer IV and extra barrels in .38 Special/.357 Magnum and .22 LR. A couple of misconceptions are posted by people who obviously have not tried one of these.

1) The recoil is not bad with .410 shot shells. Recoil with the supplied grips is more a nudge than a sharp impulse. My teenage daughter has no recoil problems with 3" 000 buck loads in the Bond. She loves to shoot the Shoot-N-C targets with it. The biggest problem is she loves to shoot whole boxes of ammo in a range session.

This gave me quite the chuckle. Daughters are like that, aren't they? Use up all the ammo and have no backup. After 30 years you would think they learn. At least that's the way it is with my daughter. Try to give her gold and she still wants silver.

Thanks for the info.

Absintheur 08-31-2009 12:17 PM

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Good but not overly impressive video. Someone who is a avid skeet shooter knows exactly where the birds will be in the air...just a matter of lead. If he had broken that many out of a wobble trap I would be impressed.

The Bond are well made as are the American Derringer pieces...I just have a problem with the 2 shots and awkward, slow reloading. Perhaps as a third gun but not as a primary or BUG for me.

livtocruz 08-31-2009 12:45 PM

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So, some give me, in their opinion what would be a good Derringer? I'm pretty sure a .22 or .223. But, what about a manufacturer? Lead me to a website.

Thanks.

obilly 08-31-2009 01:00 PM

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try below site for north american arms,,,,,been cc'in one for 15 years,,, don't let anyone tell you a 22 mag won't do the job....also comes with a 22lr cyl. ,,,,,22 mag can be had in shot , incase you really need a snake charmer.


http://www.naaminis.com/magnum.html


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